Last week I blogged on claims by advocates of redefining marriage, that there was a link between gay suicide and ‘not being accepted,’ so same-sex marriage was necessary. I said that was “reprehensible.” Me ol’ mate long-distance runner and blogger David Farrar at Kiwiblog said that was “callous.” The People spoke, a lot (128 commentaries) mainly agreeing with me. Here are some of their comments as a constructive continuance of this debate.
For background see:
- ‘Conservative MP’ David Farrar not gay over Suicide Claims.
- CoNZv. 1 Feb. Using Suicide to Push Gay Cause Reprehensible!
- Kiwiblog. 2 Feb. A Callous Post by DPF.
9. Fletch (3,854) Says: February 2nd, 2013 at 11:17 am
ps, will passing gay marriage laws bring the suicide rate by gays down? Not likely. As an example, Canada has had legalised gay marriage since 2005. Is suicide still a problem for gays there? Yes.
Here’s a quote from gay magazine Xtra in Canada, in a column by Julia Garro, dated Tuesday, February 17, 2009.
Over the past 10 years [Government] have contracted with experts on gay, lesbian, bisexual health to produce studies … issues affecting queer Canadians includes lower life expectancy than the average Canadian, suicide, higher rates of substance abuse, depression, inadequate access to care and HIV/AIDS… all kinds of health issues that are endemic to our community… higher rates of anal cancer in the gay male community, lesbians have higher rates of breast cancer … more GLBT people in this country who die of suicide each year than die from AIDS, there are more who die early deaths from substance abuse than die of HIV/AIDS… now that we can get married everyone assumes that we don’t have any issues … A lot of the deaths that occur in our community are hidden … Those of us who are working on the front lines see them and I’m tired of watching my community die.”
If there is a higher suicide rate among gays, it’s not because of the lack of gay marriage; nor, I would say, a lack of acceptance. Gays are more accepted now than at any time in history because of the prevalence of gays in movies, tv shows, presenters etc (thanks to liberal Hollywood).
Again, from their own literature, here’s part of a submission by gays to the Canadian Human Rights Commission, outlining some of their problems –
Life expectancy of gay/bisexual men in Canada is 20 years less than the average; that is 55 years.
GLB people commit suicide at rates from 2 to 13.9 times more often than average.
GLB people have smoking rates 1.3 to 3 times higher than average.
GLB people have rates of alcoholism 1.4 to 7 times higher than average.
GLB people have rates of illicit drug use 1.6 to 19 times higher than average.
GLB people show rates of depression 1.8 to 3 times higher than average.
Gay and bisexual men (MSM) comprise 76.1% of AIDS cases.
Gay and bisexual men (MSM) comprise 54% of new HIV infections each year.
If one uses Statistics Canada figure of 1.7% of GLB becoming infected, that is 26 times higher than average.
GLB people are at a higher risk for anal cancers.
For the exact quotes, please see pages 3 and 4 of the HRC complaint HERE
As I’ve said before, do we really want to promote this kind of lifestyle to others (especially children) as being normal?
And to enshrine these relationships in law? To what end? Marriage is not a prize or a merit badge that you get as the conclusion of a relationship to say you’ve made it (although that’s what some seem to think of it as); it’s the beginning of something else – the start of a family; the rearing of children: THAT is why the Govt’s of the past took an interest in it, because they had an interest in supporting this building block of society; not some notion that marriage is there to affirm yours or my romance.