Click here to watch the ten min. video: http://tvnz.co.nz/breakfast-news/nigel-latta-and-bob-mccoskrie-debate-marriage-equality-video-5264957
Nigel Latta comes across like a schoolboy in this, with silly gesticulations and face pulling, while Bob McCoskrie argues with integrity and respect.
Latta argues that “marriage culture has constantly changed” as some sort of justification that we should change “marriage” now. So, does he mean we should accept polygamy?Why discriminate?
Then Latta discriminates by insisting on “gentleman’s rules.” Is that sexist and discriminatory?
McCoskrie argued clearly and logically and stuck to the central issues. Latta was patronising and drew in double negatives all the time. He argued that inequality and discrimination is bad; but was unable to answer Bob’s point, ‘why is your (Latta’s) discrimination against threesomes getting married ok?’ Good point which Latta brushed off with a throw away about cats.
This video shows how some in the liberal world patronize and mock conservatives who are simply arguing to maintain what has always been accepted in law and culture.
And why does the media continually insist on the misnomer “Marriage Equality Bill” which is the semantics of the pro-bill lobby? Kinda unbalanced and lacking in objectivity. It’s called the “Redefinition of Marriage Bill.” It has nothing to do with equality. Vegans can’t marry as vegans, Morris Dancers can’t marry as morris dancers, they are unequal and discriminated against too, if you accept that logic. Gay people are as entitled to get married as any one else, just not to someone of the same gender, in the same way that a non-gay man can’t marry his daughter, grandmother, or a second wife.
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Hi John
Thanks for ‘vocalizing’ my thoughts of this morning while watching the debate. You’ll no doubt have realized that there are some typo’s which to my thinking detract from the well written analysis. I’d like to repost it on my blog, if I may?
Thanks again
Eddie Henrard Machiatto Espresso Twitter: @machiattonz tel/sms +6421774666
Fire ahead Eddie.
100% agree with you John.
Nigel Latta will be embarrassed by his unprofessional performance, face pulling and totally illogical arguements. All the while Bob McCosgrie was cool, clam, sensible and to the point.
Latta got “owned” when Bob asked him why he was discriminating against threesomes.
Yip Latta will be embarrassed.
Vegans can actually marry as long as they are opposite sex ? That is a poor comparison as veganism has nothing to do with human sexuallity and attraction. No one tells vegans they can’t marry.and for polygamy, its again a different thing, gay marriage would be between two people, which is the same as a normal marriage two people of the opposite sex, its different from polygamy because its the same thing as straight marriage just they are not allowed because of there sex, its like not letting blacks marry whites.
That’s the point Dan. Who says the rule is sexuality and attraction? Veganism has an equally valid claim. Marriage is decided on gender, not sexuality.